Re: Alchemy Revealed (Free ebook)

[spectre]

Ah, I've found there are actually more than one "secret fires" in alchemy. The one most normally associated with this term is ammonium nitrate. When water is left out at night, it absorbs ammonium nitrate from the surrounding air & atmosphere. This special water can then be evaporated to form a white salt. This white salt was called by the old alchemists "the water that does not wet the hands." In this way they easily concealed the real meaning, and thus it can only be understood by initiates of the art. The same thing happens with morning dew (which is high in ammonium nitrate, and other substances), and when salts are placed out to deliquesce. Also, many adepts of the art believe the ammonium ion is responsible for the transmutation of elements. Another secret fire is the salt of an animals horns or antlers - which is ammonium bicarbonate. Just thought I'd toss that out there for you to ponder on.

I appreciate it, thanks.

I made a new thread here about Albert Cau since I read some of his site.

[carabric]

[quote="BeautifulEvil"]

I will say this: many alchemists possess the stone - the secret underground alchemy community is quite lively. We've made MANY interesting discoveries over the past few months. Transmutation is indeed real.

It's perhaps the best kept secret of all time.

While I'm new to this forum I'm in no way new to alchemy. Lately I've been reading and seeing more people mention some "secret underground" community of new alchemists who are doing transmutations or so they claim. Many of this centered around NDC (http://alchemy-illuminated.com) and his theories on the matter. I've seen his rather over dramatic video of his elixir of life on his website, which to me- may as well be just food coloring in a vial. There is nothing in his claims that I've seen verified and if anyone could point me to something contrary to this then please do. It wouldn't take much to anonymously post pictures or preferably video of a true transmutation but as of yet all I've seen is just talk...and nothing more.

[BeautifulEvil]

While I'm not a member of his forum - I know people on the forum. They tend to relay information to me, and what I've heard and seen so far is quite astounding.

You should sign up for his forum, and check it out. The results are interesting, and many individuals have posted transmutation photos. One guy even wrote up an entire pdf.

[carabric]

While I don't mean to sound crass I have tried on a few occasions to sign up to his forum, and for whatever reason I was denied...perhaps because I'm not cool enough or underground enough. I too have people who are on his forum and they are less ready to agree to the notion that transmutations are being truly effected. At the very most they suggest the metals are being tinged (as in the case of his tin and gold Ankh photo on his website)...Again I will state that if anyone were worried about displaying a transmutation for whatever reason- anonymity is a readily available commodity on the internet. Until I see something more concrete, it's all just posturing to me and nothing more.

[carabric]

Just wondering is Crowley any good for alchemical information? I've never been much into AC.

I wouldn't bother with Crowley- sure he borrows from alchemy on occasion. But if it was a choice between someone who borrows or someone who owns, I'd choose the latter. As far as Kunkin is concerned- I'm of the opinion that you should take it as a lesson learned, I don't think you were scammed, but it's not like he should be selling 1/5 of his book for full price. I talked to him a few times some years ago, and he does have an extensive alchemical library and is somewhat versed. But no- I do not believe his rocks are in any way shape or form related to the secret fire of the alchemist. They will tell you that it is of a vaporous quality & nature- I suppose if you really want to stretch the metaphor, perhaps to the point of torture, his radioactive rocks could be vaporous in nature. But I don't think I'll be purchasing that lemon...I'd be more inclined to believe the perpetual fire of the philosophers is the Centralia, PA landfill and coal fire (going strong since 1962). Though the last time I corresponded with Art he asked me what I thought the secret fire was, no doubt it was so he could plug his theory. He suggested that one of his colleagues Patrick Riviere (the only student of Canseliet) was under the impression it was pitchblende or some such matter. But whenever I asked him "what is philosophical about that?" he never replied back. If ever you're working on a theory, I feel it's always wise to ask yourself this question. More often then not people want to complicate the matter so thoroughly that it resembles whatever they want it to after they've reworked it enough. And ignoring whole chunks of the historic account will get you nowhere.

[spectre]

Thanks, I appreciate your advice.

About Kunkin, he has knowledge of alchemy but I still *feel* scammed and I'm not hopeful that I'll get an update of his book and certainly not an answer from him via email, already emailed him to three email addresses and I suspect he simply ignores emails from those that have already bought the book.

[carabric]

Sorry he's not responding...I had his phone number awhile back ago, if you want it PM me and I'll try to dig it up.

[spectre]

Nah, my main question to him was whether I was on his mailing list for his book updates.. I feel a bit disappointed but I've started reading other books now, thanks for the offer though.