Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

[harveydent]

Hey Everyone, I hope this is the right category, I did a search and I couldn't find anything like this, if I missed it my apologies!

What brought you to Alchemy? How did you make this choice?

The chance of discovering the elixir and zapping people out of my way with bolts of lightning is highly appealing!

"I find your lack of faith disturbing" **zip, crackle, "Argh!"**



"You will pay the price for your lack of vision!" - Emperor Palpatine (1977)

But all joking aside, its also said to be the cure for anything and everything.

[monkeyblood]

The chance of discovering the elixir and zapping people out of my way with bolts of lightning is highly appealing!

"I find your lack of faith disturbing" **zip, crackle, "Argh!"** :lol!

LOL......Oh I like that....I had no idea....you've all been keeping that under your hoods........I think I'll be dropping astrology now......bugger divination....

[harveydent]

LOL......Oh I like that....I had no idea....you've all been keeping that under your hoods........I think I'll be dropping astrology now......bugger divination....

Has it ever divined anything for you apart from the fact your missing wedding ring is stuck in the U-bend of the kitchen or bathroom sink?

[harveydent]

Become an astrologer, god forbid have to answer crack pots all day who ask, why is my phallus so small, one phone call that came in once was a girl who'd caught her boyfriend cheating on her, after half an hour, sorry but you realise you've been with the astrologer for half an hour now and thats cost you £30.00 her reply was a classic, "I dont care, its that cheating #?@$4rd's Credit Card!"


Not even the power of the legendary philosophers stone can give them a bigger willy, they'll just have to learn to accept what they've got...

Man: "My libedo has waned to almost nothing and I cant get it up, what do the stars suggest I do?"

Astrologer: "Consult your physician about such matters, not your astrologer and ask for Viagra!"

[monkeyblood]

......hmmm....phonelines,don't do them.....too many unevolved nutjobs who think astrologers are a mixture of John Edwards and Zara the Gypsy.......dont want to despoil the art.....so don't do horary......astrology is a princely science.Commerce and astrology means compromise......

[harveydent]

Exactly my point, granted astrology does provide some answers, like who they might fall in love with and whom they might end up marrying, but it is not a cure all for everything that ales them, likewise with colloidial gold, it wont cure everything under the sun, despite snake oil salesmens claims to the contrary, people still ingest things like collodial copper and silver and run a very high risk of poisoning themselves.

I'll stay clear of astrology for the masses and stick to astrology for just myself, but it hasnt helped me win the lottery (yet!), likewise I never read the astrology bit in newspapers, because as any astrologer will tell you its an exact science, without your exact time of birth and the location you where born, their calcualtions cant be totally accurate. Mystic's, stars and numerologists, I'll stick with sorcery and thaumaturgy, the will and the word, its a lot simpler.

The human body generates an electrical field and gold is a marvelous electrical conductor or so we're told, so perhaps swigging collodial gold isnt such a bad idea.

If swigging colloidial silver turns your skin gray with Argyria (silver poisoning) I wonder if swigging nano sized particles of gold turns you bright yellow. Swigging all these metals cant be good for you despite what snake oil salesmen claim, silver build up is harmful.

Alchemy, hehe, what a way to get sunburn (unless its a metallic sheen, then youd just glow), but hey your all welcome to turn yourself into a giant walking gold electrode, heh, just dont go out in a lightning storm!!!

[harveydent]

It's a poison in large dosages this is why everyone is being told to use only a drop on their tongue, if it was not these people selling it as the ultimate cure all would advocate swigging the whole bottle!!

The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Gold poisoning includes the 10 symptoms listed below:

Dermatitis
Headache
Vomiting
Bone marrow depression
Nephrotic syndrome
Jaundice
Cholestasis
Pneumonitis
Gastrointestinal bleeding
Ocular chrysiasis

So in retrospect I'll stick to herbalism and ginseng! Less chance of poisoning myself.

If I want to drink gold, monatomic or not, i'll stick with a bottle of Goldschläger

As with any medicine, too much of it can in all probability kill you, ingesting it as a gold leaf allows your stomache a better chance of breaking it down in the acid's your own body can produce or passing it out, but ingesting it in nano-particles allows it into your bloodstream, kidneys, liver, etc.

A good reason to avoid White-Pepper, the tiny grains of white pepper build up in your kidneys and this has been found to cause more a lot more harm than good... BEWARE snake oil salesmen and smooth talking health store salesmen. Their selling us poisonous rubbish and they dont care because their parting you from the real gold, your cash!

The bit that intreasts me with alchemy is the stone cold science.

It was the transmutation of gold into another substance, not the ingestion of nano-particles of raw gold.

The ancients also used to sniff yopo, drink mescaline, drink opium and sniff cocaine, im conviced that if the snake oil sellers could get away with it they'd try to sell us those too!


They disolved gold into arsnic to create gold plate (paint), they didnt disolve it in it to find the stone...

Rumoured to be how Napoleon met his end, inhaling arsnic paint fumes from his house wallpaper...

Here a website I was looking at earlier, listen to his fantastic claims for copper, then consider this; Symptoms of copper poisoning are very similar to those produced by arsenic. Fatal cases are generally terminated by convulsions, palsy, and insensibility.

Your body dosnt flush out copper silver or gold, once its in there its in there for good!

Their claim's that it fights off disease's are laughable, if I was to put a silver penny, a copper penny and a gold penny in my mouth and suck them for half an hour, I would in theory achive the same result as a drop of it in the mouth, so all I can say is how ridiculus that sounds!

[monkeyblood]

The above two posts are of real interest to me.....the effects of metals in the human body....we have a problem with copper toxicity over here....maybe they should be made into a thread called Metal Effects or something.....I just found my colloidal silver maker ....so how much is too much?

[harveydent]

That is the question, I dont know the answer, swallowed raw silver and raw gold, niether has ever had any preventative properties with regards to health (I've still caught the flu) I once lived in a place with copper pipes for the plumbing and that didnt do anything either, stick to the herb's, you'll still get the common cold.

[harveydent]

You cant poison yourself into the bargin by taking too meny herbal teas. (depends on the herb!)

I would stear clear of metal ingestion all together, sure go for it and drop some finely powdered electrum if you feel like it, but anything like 50mg of raw silver colloidial or silver nitrate is considered the lethal dose!

I have grey hairs, so much for copper stopping grey hairs!

When I was 13 my parents shoved me into a martial arts class because I was a weedy guy who always got picked on at school, I grew up studing differant philosophys on and off for years, Karate, Kung-Fu, Ninjitsu, Tai-Chi, Qi Gong and several other forms of self defence that have long winded names.

It never turned me into a confident person, god know's if theirs a big fight I am the first one to leave a dust trail going the other direction, but heres a story that will make you laugh, a few years back I was in a bar getting drunk (very drunk!) it got to the point where I could hardly stand up and the barman a big man with muscles and a very bad attitude (ex-military) grabbed me by the scruff of my shirt and threw me out. When I recovered enough of my balance to find I could stand up I discovered I had left my bag with my belongings in his bar, so despite his warning to go home, I went back to get my bag, he immediatly singled me out after all I am not a very big guy and hardly intimidating, he said "I told you to get out" his wife protested because I had already explained to her that all I wanted was my bag, he responded by giving her a slap in the face, then started shoving me towards the door, so I told him straight "look man all I want is my travel pass and my bag, then you can go back to hitting your wife!" that went down just great, he roared "YOU WHAT!" and started swinging punches (most of which I dodged which made him all the more angry). When he did connect a glancing blow and I just snapped after all this guy had bent my arm behind my back and already used my head as a door opener into the alley once already, next thing he knew this little guy he was shoving turned around and caught him with the best upper cut you've ever seen in your life, both his feet left the floor, which was followed up by a side kick straight into his solar plexus, he flew backwards over the pool table, hit floor and just lay their moaning. Everyone in the bar strangly enough moved as far away from me as possible as I calmly got my bag and left!

I dont think they'd ever seen a little slip of a guy make an ex-military paratrooper fly through the air!!

I decry violence, I never like to resort to my fist's, but word has it, his wife left him shortly after, people feared and respected him as he had a reputation for being a bit nasty.

The age old philosophy springs sharply to mind, "never judge a book by its cover" it is possible to make someone float in the air (levitation!) only not in the way people imagine.

Its not just throwing fists with force, its knowing where to connect that force that turns it into energy, inner harmony becomes outwards force. (sometimes with deadly results)

Sun Tze was correct; 'Know your enemy to know yourself, over confidence is a downfall of meny a big man!'

Bruce Lee "Never tighten your fist until the moment of impact!"

Some people would get off on being able to do that to someone else, but I hate it, its an ability I spent a life time learning and what is it good for besides inflicting a world of hurt? Inner harmony, inner strength, yeah right thats why nearly every wrist lock can break a wrist and some techniques can snap the spine like a twig, those wrist locks are not to restrain your opponent, their so you can break his wrist, after all, that leaves him with one arm to hit you with dosnt it!

These philosophys sprang from a nation that devoted itself at one time to one thing and one thing only, WAR!

If you're wondering what the differance is in both the philosophy of karate and kung-fu, the answer is one is repetative to drill in the basics for self defence, more of a contact sport these days than useful on the street, then take a kung-fu class the contrast soon becomes apparent when the instructor tells you to put one knee in his testicles and gouge out his eyes...

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You dont even have to swing a fist to be effective, when you put your open hand towards someones face they instinctivly lean backwards and thats it you've got them, because they are completely off balance.

Dont let them grapple (that can be painful) and remember to dodge a big fist (those can be painful too!)

[harveydent]

I used to work as a security officer, in my lifetime I've been pumled, beaten, stabbed, attacked by a lunatic with a hammer, much like a piece of gold on a blacksmiths bench. Shaped and molded into who I am.

Who in their right mind would want to live forever, once was enough!

Sounds more like a curse than a blessing if you ask me, but heh, lightning bolts out of your fingers now that I can agree with...

Alchemist *zip crackle* "you will do as I command.." little bloke "no I wont" *Sizzle, Snap, Crackle and Pop!* Alchemist roars "YOU WILL DO AS I COMMAND!" little bloke "I will do as you command my lord, what is your will?" Alchemist "Fetch me some grapes and a bottle of merlot and while your at it run me a hot bath!"

There are a few people in my life, as I am sure their are in everybodys who I'd love to get even with (even steven) and I can think of no better way than turning their flash ferrari into a smoking potatoe chip!

Especially when they bought that car with my money, sigh, a story for another day...

All I'll say is if you leave a will and leave stuff to your grand-kids, careful who you make the executor of your final will and testiment, or you might find as I did they swan off on long holidays and get their fingernails painted, whilst your struggling to make a living. Hopefully this indervidual will get to see a differant type of holiday soon, the kind where you dont get to see day light for a fair few years. They'll get what's coming to them and I wont care...

Unfortunatly that is going to become a firm reality for them, they made one tiny mistake you see, they sold the shares that where mine two or three years after the death! How can a dead person cash in there shares, they cant...(unless their an alchemist!) It's very unfortunate some people are motivated by greed and that is unfortunatly their ultimate downfall.

My Epitaph; There he goes by the grace of god, he lived his life riding his hot rod.

[Amor Platonicus]

To make a long story short: after much uncertainty I finally decided to watch Fullmetal Alchemist, and after watching the anime I began to intensly research laboratory alchemy and the Elixir of Life/Philosophers Stone.
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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one here whose interest in alchemy was sparked by Fullmetal Alchemist.

[solomon levi]

The circumstances of my life drew me to a spiritual school in which I was taught
to raise the vibrations of my body through focussed intent and pranayama.
The school had/has a bookstore and also invites people to come and lecture.
In this way I was introduced to the Essene, David Hudson and Art Kunkin at lectures
and the books of Fulcanelli and other alchemists.

Practical laboratory alchemy is a way to produce the same "states" that I learned
to produces "spiritually". It's possible that the P-stone cannot be produced
without the proper, corresponding consciousness.
According to quantum mechanics, this would be true, and we are dealing with
quanta, the subtle, m-state, etc - matters which exists more in the realm
of consciousness/spirit than physical matter.

[phliosehea]

I was on the corner of Olive and Broadway...somewhat disenchanted with the world around me at the time. I came to the realization that there was no magic in the world, and that there never was. I felt that this broken, flawed, and ridiculous world was what we inherited from our father's father. That no matter what- we will eat, we will sleep, we will fuck, we will breed, and then we will die...in no particular order. Obviously pessimism grew like a weed, corrupting the idealism of my twenties. In turn I began to loose all hope, drive, or curiousity regarding all aspects of life. Shortly thereafter I closed my business- and gave, sold or threw away everything I owned...and went out into the forest. Nothing miraculous happened in the woods, barring some strange noises late one night...but after returning...slowly...very slowly, I was proven completely wrong. For me it is the question...and the answer- Alchemy.

[JamesBryan]

To make a long story short: after much uncertainty I finally decided to watch Fullmetal Alchemist, and after watching the anime I began to intensly research laboratory alchemy and the Elixir of Life/Philosophers Stone.
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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one here whose interest in alchemy was sparked by Fullmetal Alchemist.

I have watched it, I'm a manga-fan, but the true reason I got into it was a 20 word paragraph in a science book, it went something along the lines of...

"Transmutation, you give, you get. Sacrifices are made in your lifetime, Mankind strives for power. "

It went on to say something about a RED STONE. I got to thinking, hmmm, lead which is a ugly metal, turn into Gold?

PROFIT$

Soon to realize 6 months later, I am here, sacrificing my time to create theorys, papers, and other nonsense.

PS. That manga is good though, don't get me wrong.