Photographs

[LadyHydralisk]

A photograph of a statue of King Gudea, the disciple of Ningishzidda and ruler of Lagash, the city in which Ng was quite prominent:





A photograph of Ningishzidda leading Gudea up some steps towards what supposedly may be Enki or Ninurta (it is broken off)



A photograph of the Michaux stone, depicting the same mushushu dragon and elucidating an alchemical process:



Here is an important diagram indicating the difference between dumbass wizards and Ningishzidda:

http://www.la.gg/upl/lordngisnotvoldemort.jpg

[deviadah]

So what are you thoughts on the whole alien race thing with regards to Ng and the Annanuki?

Some truth to it or just bollocks?



For those unaware the short version is that the Annanuki were an alien race that came to Earth to create human beings using DNA genetics!

[LadyHydralisk]

The Zetcharin Sitchin debris?

I don't know, it all seems like a bunch of hype to me, and perhaps Ng views it as useful...I don't proclaim to know anything about the ways of gods, but I do know a lot about marketing strategy...

As far as aliens go, I do believe they exist, and I have quite enough experiences and family history to know on my own part, somewhat, that they exist and are here among us already. But this doesn't really enter into my life very much, they are a very minor detail that I only discuss when someone brings it up.

And of course, there is the situation that we are all some type of "alien" even the gods are simply aliens of a type we humans have a very difficult time imaging as being interstellar travellers that journey from solar system to solar system, to check up on their girlfriends or internal affairs...

This goes right down back to the dawn of time where the Absolute encounters it's own reflection in nothingness...or myriad other ways of putting it..."aliens" are simply another facet of reality.

So sure.....but it doesn't mean that that alien is as big as 2-300 galaxies...encompassing entire realms of existence upon one mindform...

[LadyHydralisk]

LadyHydralisk:

My understanding was that Ningishzidda was a male deity,
husband to Ninazua (Lady productive branch) and his name meant "Lord of
the Good Tree"

us4-he2-gal2:

Well L.H., This is certainly one Ive been figuring on
getting to, and this would be a good pretext. Ning̃išhzida (I'm using
the rendering of the name as it appears in a recent scholarly
publication. But my tilde wont get over my g as its supposed to..) is a
deity who has incurred much speculation and comparison I notice from a
moments googleing around. There would appear to be three main source's
for perspective on this deity:

1. People who take the sign on the ambulance and work backwards in a horrible sequence of comparison
2. Thorkild Jacobsen
3. Papers and articles primarily from sometime around 1902 which focus on the instance of Gishzida in the story of Adapa.


I enjoy Jacobsen, and your understanding accords well there. Thats who
I lean on in the case, and I dont think it would be wise to draw from 1
or 3 at all.


To start with I am looking through a book "The Temples of Ancient
Mesopotamia" by A.R George [1993] this books is a wonderful resource
for temples. With careful referencing and some difficulty, Cohens
accompanying notes may provide further leads.

The author in this book has some 1449 temple entries, the following 8 correspond to our Deity

[...]

[deviadah]

I haven't made up my mind up, but I tend to try and look at things first from a boring and logical angle before I apply any sort of mysticism, and so far Ng is nothing but a representation of DNA, or the DNA process. That is why he might also be a she, like the X and Y.

Check out this post...

But I am not saying you are wrong... I've just not decided 100% yet where to cast my vote, and after all we can't really know for sure since it all took place thousands of years ago! But it's great fun to speculate!

[LadyHydralisk]

Deviadah you are familiar with the concepts of The Supreme Absolute?

In this manifestation of supreme reality, the masculine contains the feminine within it...ie, it exists as a component of The Absolute which is neither wholly male nor female, but when it manifests in the realm of forms, this form is referred to as being masculine in nature.

You see it in Buddhism constantly, where the non-dualistic supreme boddhisattva descends and splits off into two separate parts, a female deity representing wisdom, and a male deity representing compassion.

So actually...

I completely agree with you on many levels.

I just don't think that viewing Ng as *primarily* female is as archaeologically authentic as regarding him as masculine containing all feminine - after all, he is the tree, his wife is the branch...this indicates to me that he was regarded in a similar form as the gods depicted in the Tibetan thangkas, the trinity of

Absolute form

On the contrary I don't find logic boring at all, I am in fact a very logical person who utilizes chaos theory in equations.

To say that Ng is *nothing* but DNA is a wild flight of the imagination, since we know that Ancient Sumer did not have any hard knowledge of DNA itself like we do today. What they *had* were tree roots and serpents and all manner of twisting forms which tend to excite the eye anyways (I'm an artist, I know what looks good to fleshly eyes)

So logically, it's best to look at it from an ancient perspective first before we start diving into all sorts of speculation.

My own speculations about Ng actually go way beyond DNA alone, which I think has recieved far too much attention in metaphysical literature - while it is interesting, it's nowhere near as complex as some other cosmological features indicated by science today. Both the holographic universe and string theory also share some similarities here, and now we have the plasmic universe model which as I indicated earlier this year on Abrahadabra, also has a twining form....

I've been enjoying your posts on Abrahadabra by the way, keep up the good work - wish I could join in but I barely have any time these days as it is....

[deviadah]

Interesting... there is certainly a lot to think about.

While looking for something on Gnosticism I stumbled upon this:

List of Dragons

I thought it could interest you, if you haven't come across it before. But I know you like dragons...

[LadyHydralisk]

Great compilation, thanks Deviadah...you're so damned helpful. What's wrong with you?

[deviadah]

What's wrong with you?

Oh, I only suffer from THIS

And also I am just trying to benefit mankind in any large, or small, way!

[LadyHydralisk]

I understand, I've been suffering from cat naps lately....

Now mind you, insomnia could just be your natural state of awareness coming forward to take charge...

[deviadah]

Now mind you, insomnia could just be your natural state of awareness coming forward to take charge...

This I am sure is true. And often in conjunction with the full moon.

Have you had any moon experience with Ng? Or sun for that matter?

[LadyHydralisk]

Sure, plenty of both.

I recorded one instance of the moon in my Thoth Count Journal (which may or may not still be up - I don't have permissions to access Abrahadabra University materials)

I also locked myself out of my magickal journals so can't quite remember all the details here...

But take a look at the two crescent moons on the Grid Proofs 001....

[m1thr0s]

So what are you thoughts on the whole alien race thing with regards to Ng and the Annanuki?

Some truth to it or just bollocks?

The whole story of the Annunaki has so many holes in it you could package it up and sell it as a sponge...just to begin with we are told that this alien race only got here because their home planet came within an easy travel distance to earth and the next time we will see them is when it comes round again. What a load of crap...supposedly we were barely monkeys the last time they were here and now we have probes on Uranus and beyond. Are we supposed to believe that a race of gods would not have mastered intra-galactic space/time travel in all that time? Are they like retarded gods or something? So either they never really left or they aren't exactly what they were made out to be to begin with - or both.

I believe that there is probably some truth to the Annunaki but I don't much believe in any of the tabloid journalism surrounding this phenomena...I think the truth is actually more amazing than any of this and that these forces are masters of InnerSpace somehow...certainly Ningishzidda is at least. These are archetypes on a mission and they make their appearance in human civilization - not just once - but many times over in slightly different modalities...but seeded clean across the board.

Powerful archetypes that can always be independantly validated at the level of InnerSpace itself. I think their cultural roots lie with human consciousness itself moreso than anything else. They are Us in some way and always have been...we know them because we are them, essentially...

m1thr0s

[LadyHydralisk]

Oooh, nicely said m1thr0s.

[m1thr0s]

Well I've been scanning the crap out of this thing for some time Naomi...as have you, I know...it all adds up.

And I have not only seen Ng...well...this might come off all wrong...but I have seen myself identified by others as Ng...not just a little...but by untold billions of highly intelligent beings spanning millions of cultures on an intergalactic scale...

yeah I know...that's way out there, but there is where it is...I take trancework very seriously and on very rare occasions have been literally blasted right through the fucking roof...no exact explanation for it either and I don't really try to draw exact conclusions but there are some things I have learned...

So I have reason to believe in this They=Us theory both as a studied transmutationist and also from personal experience (which I never actually bargained for)...

Exactly how that kind of thing might be possible or why etc all takes a long time to sort through but it's all on record really...none of it is actually unheard of at all. Many adept Shamans would be saying...yeah right...tell us something else we don't already know...lol

edit: I should explain something I guess...this *package* that I hesitantly call *myself* is no more the full weight of Ningishzidda than it is the full force of the Sun...so let's clear the air on that as much as possible. But some particle of myself has at some time *assumed the mantle* of this great archetype directly and in that moment no discrepancy was found to exist (else I imagine I would have been chewed up and spit out fast). I was even presented with the name many years before I had any clue what it meant. In a trance...the Universe approached me and called me by this name and a very powerful experience transpired immediately on the heels of this unlikely interaction. I don't exactly know what it means...I have never exactly understood it, but I can sure as hell report that it lit a fire under my ass that has never died out and is largely responsible for the kinds of insights I have gleaned regarding the whole science of Inner Alchemy in general.

"sometimes you eat the bear - sometimes the bear eats you" - anonymous

m1thr0s
(cracking the cosmic egg for a living...)