Re: Fulcanelli path

[Galeidoscope]

I was the spirit, the astral of astral stone.
M is the Magnesia, but it is also the initial of one of the names of the matter.
G is also the initial of another name of the matter.
This is a family of minerals, not just one...

Marcasites -- Galmei?

Excuse me but in French it's not Galena, it's GALÈNE and you should now that! :-)

Yes, Galène, not Galèse...

Yes and therefore I wrote "almost a perfect anagram", one single letter differs!

[Green Lion]

The beautiful case ...
We are almost or in the rigorous research?

To see a friable regulus of G, you could try to mix ganela with tartar for the separation. You should not use niter at this step.
Then you should use just niter to purify the regulus.

[carabric]

With the amount of knowledge you two appear to have regarding Fulcanelli- you might benefit more by studying the phonetic cabala, which I personally feel, is where all innuendo ceases regarding the matter. He would not have placed so much effort and intent on it if it did not have it's merit.

[Green Lion]

All the cabala which is usefull in Alchemy is explained in "Clef des oeuvres de saint jean et de michel de nostredame" by M.A. de Nantes.
All the Greek Myths are explained with alchemy by using etymology, signification of greek terms etc.
This is the must.
It is not necessary to look after Grasset d'Orcet.
And in reading this book of M.A. de Nantes, we can see that Fulcanelli was not the most clear in this domain...

[Galeidoscope]

I have read the book and it's OK, however Fulcanelli is much more revealing and I strongly doubt that the author of the Nostradamus was an adept.

Regarding the phonetic cabala it's nothing else than a pedagogic viz. to teach secrets to those who takes the trouble to dechiffer it's meaning in context with the authors intension; in this case Fulcanelli. However I do not believe that even Fulcanelli himself truly had faith in all these play with words, which were moreover not at all used by the majority of alchemists, at least not to the point that Fulcanelli pretends. It's a way to describe secrets by using allussion and metaphors. Nothing else. Then if people still does not grasp that all such allusions as Gall, Gallia, Gallus, gale (cat in Greek), Astragalus etc. pertain to the mineral G, well it's a pity for them.

Good luck with all your endavours.

GALEIDOSCOPE

[Green Lion]

Good luck with Galena.
I really want you to succeed.

[Galeidoscope]

Thank you. I wish you the same, we all have our darlings and it's up to each person to become wise upon his or her own beliefs.

GALEIDOSCOPE

[carabric]

Very well, I wish you both the best of luck.

[Salazius]

Hello,

S or G are good choices for the Art. These two matters have both their values, energies etc.
Before reading Pierre Dujols, I didn't know that G could be used, and I must say that hermetically it is interesting.
Just a little meditation is needed to see why.

My best to you,
Salazius.

[solomon levi]

"In his Dwellings of the philosophers Fulcanelli openly rejected Stibnite as being the true materia prima... "

Actually, he rejects antimony, not stibnite. I think that was a false blind. Antimony is not the material, stibnite is.
And you know when they speak openly they conceal.

But I beg your pardon. You asked for someone who worked with G, and I have not.

[Galeidoscope]

"In his Dwellings of the philosophers Fulcanelli openly rejected Stibnite as being the true materia prima... "

Actually, he rejects antimony, not stibnite. I think that was a false blind. Antimony is not the material, stibnite is.
And you know when they speak openly they conceal.

No this is not correct. Fulcanelli specified: "as for the MINERAL Stibnite if posess none of the required qualities and in whatever manner we want to treat it neither the secret solvent or the philosophical mercury could be made from it."

You may also consult the adept who examined antimony and mineral Stibnite more than any one else viz. Basil Valentine and he did, as you may read in one of my former quotes in this thread, not consider neither Stibnite nor antimony as being the true matter for making the philosophers stone. You may also meditate over the fact that why it should be a great secret to envolve a starrypattern from Stibnite? This is a chemical triviality and does not envolve any alchemical parameters at all. However, if you could accomplish the same upon the surface of lead and have it friable (without the help of any additional matters forming an alloy) it would be most curious to say the least... Because this can only be accomplish by the natural and secret fire which is the secret of secrets.

GALEIDOSCOPE

[solomon levi]

Thanks for the education, G.

So the difference then, is that S makes a firestone but not a Red Lion?
S can't be taken all the way?

Still hard to believe, the way it swallows metals and stuff, that it's not the prima materia.

[Galeidoscope]

Yes that is a correct interpretation Solomon Levi: fire stone (a particular) is indeed possible by antimony / S but not the red lion which according to BV is found in another mineral which he describes as the astrum solis...

However all this is in accordace to the Basil Valentine and Fulcanelli paradigm, of course one must not necessarely limit the study to them (I dare to say I have been through, studied, more than a couple of hundred different texts in english and french), there are certainly other (and completely different) paths to follow too, if they all lead to Rome is up to you judgement dear aspiring adepts.

GALEIDOSCOPE

[Pink Panther]

Hi,

I'm also pleased to read your discussion.

Galeidoscope,
I suppose you also think about Van Dongen's frontispice of Irene Hillel-Erlanger's novel, don't you ?

We know from the correspondence between Gifreda and Canseliet, that the latter from the beginning worked on G

you mean you read that correspondence ?


I would like to come back to your initial question : have you managed to realize a lead regulus stellated and friable ?
I haven't had the opportunity to work on lead yet, but sooner or later I'd be pleased to do so, in the way to compare metallic sulphides behaviours. Whatever, I heard about people who succeeded in obtaining a stellated lead regulus... friable I don't know. With S, friable is possible.

G, S, or M as you wish : you point a primordial key. Shifting the crystallization of a metal or a mineral, without making an alloy. The initial purpose is, according to me, to modify the structure of the material without addition of material. Transfering in the ore the soul, the memory of the iron, while rejecting the body of the iron.
If we forget texts, do your experimental results show you that G is better than S for this operation ?

Glad to read you
PP

[Illen A. Cluf]

All the cabala which is usefull in Alchemy is explained in "Clef des oeuvres de saint jean et de michel de nostredame" by M.A. de Nantes.
All the Greek Myths are explained with alchemy by using etymology, signification of greek terms etc.
This is the must..

Green Lion, do you know whether this book by M.A. de Nantes has been translated into English? If not, is there an electronic version of this book availalble?

Thank you.