Re: Fulcanelli path

[Green Lion]

Hi Illen A. Cluf

No, unfortunately, there is no translation of the MA de Nantes book .
It has never been digitized either.
As against, it is sometimes available for sale in its French version.

[Illen A. Cluf]

No, unfortunately, there is no translation of the MA de Nantes book .
It has never been digitized either.
As against, it is sometimes available for sale in its French version.

Hello Green Lion,

Thank you for your response. That is disapointing that there is no translation. I have searched for de Nante's book, but have not been able to find a used copy that is reasonably priced. However, you did say that you thought that Fulcanelli's books were much better in defining the bird language than de Nante's book, so that is encouraging. I have been attemping to create my own glossary of the terms he uses in his books for some time, but it's still a long way from completion.

Are you aware of any other attmpts to create such lists? I'm surprised that there seems to be so little effort in that regard.

Illen

[Green Lion]

There are others who have done this kind of list.
But each time, these lists were "tinted" with regard to the election matter of the authors.
For example Roger Caro has done, but it only works for the cinnabar path.

The best thing is to make oneself such list. It is more profitable.

[Illen A. Cluf]

There are others who have done this kind of list.
But each time, these lists were "tinted" with regard to the election matter of the authors.
For example Roger Caro has done, but it only works for the cinnabar path.

The best thing is to make oneself such list. It is more profitable.

Thanks for your reply, Green Lion. I think the list is worth completing in any regard, since much more is learned and comprehended in the process of making the list itself.

[pierre]

Hello friends, I was reading your posts and saw references to the letter G that you associated with the galene instead stibnite of the dry path of Fulcanelli.

Recalling Fulcanelli phrases as "...not proper mineral and even less metalic” , and that the letter G is represented, Fulcanelli said, amid a radiant star, and is called Saturnian Antimony...

Don`t you have thought about graphite? Graphite is a black substance, greasy and stained fingers; it is not mineral or metal; formerly it was called Plombagina, because people believed it contained lead in their substance.

The graphite is obtained from the carbono dissolved in the molten iron, and when cooled, graphite occurs in the form of needles. (¿star?)

Is also an excellent electrical conductor.

Is just an alternative to the idea that you discussed.

[solomon levi]

I have also given some thought to Graphite.
Carbon - carbuncle
Coal - Al kohl/alcohol = antimony.

Fulcanelli also said the materia was signed by nature with a sigma/six.
Carbon is the 6th element - 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons - 666.

[Illen A. Cluf]

Don`t you have thought about graphite? Graphite is a black substance, greasy and stained fingers; it is not mineral or metal; formerly it was called Plombagina, because people believed it contained lead in their substance.

The graphite is obtained from the carbono dissolved in the molten iron, and when cooled, graphite occurs in the form of needles. (¿star?)

Interesting possibility. In the past, graphite was also thought to be a black lead and was called "black lead" or "plumbago". And it is a semi-metal. However, the substance was described as having "scales" rather than needles. Are there any treatises that mention graphite as a possibility?

Illen

[pierre]

I have also given some thought to Graphite.
Carbon - carbuncle
Coal - Al kohl/alcohol = antimony.

Fulcanelli also said the materia was signed by nature with a sigma/six.
Carbon is the 6th element - 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons - 666.

This devil image of the coarseness material, as opposed to spirituality, is the first jeroglific to the mineral substance ...

It saw in another time under the figure of SATAN ...

Black and covered with scales ...
...and of strong sickening smell ...
...that stain your fingers when you touch it ... (Fulcanelli)

By other hand, I think from alcohol to antimony, there is a big phonetic difference ... ¿Don`t you think so?

[pierre]

Don`t you have thought about graphite? Graphite is a black substance, greasy and stained fingers; it is not mineral or metal; formerly it was called Plombagina, because people believed it contained lead in their substance.

The graphite is obtained from the carbono dissolved in the molten iron, and when cooled, graphite occurs in the form of needles. (¿star?)

Interesting possibility. In the past, graphite was also thought to be a black lead and was called "black lead" or "plumbago". And it is a semi-metal. However, the substance was described as having "scales" rather than needles. Are there any treatises that mention graphite as a possibility?
Illen

Are there any treatises that mention graphite as a possibility?

I do not know any.

However, the substance was described as having "scales" rather than needles

Yes;
Needles were a reference to the starry regulus, not the raw matter ...; but you are correct in your appreciation.
I'm just "thinking out loud".

[Illen A. Cluf]

Hi Pierre,

[quote="pierreHowever, the substance was described as having "scales" rather than needles

Yes;
Needles were a reference to the starry regulus, not the raw matter ...; but you are correct in your appreciation.
I'm just "thinking out loud".[/quote]

I actually enjoy "out of the box" thinking, and your suggestion certainly has merit. Fulcanelli did mention that the matter stains the hand, and is black, so both lead and graphite fit this description, although lead does not start with "g". However, regarding the substance that starts with the letter "G", Fulcanelli also suggests that the word has its roots in the word "gall" (e.g. the gall of an oak tree) and "Gaul" as in "France". This immediately brings to mind "galena", but I'm surprised that hardly anyone ever also mentions the possibility that it could also be the element "gallium" which begins with "GalL".

Just a little more food for thought.

Illen

[horticult]

I am afraid that graphite is common max 100 years now. But I was hinted on orpiment - sun signed, with scales!, Timaos - knot of gold, it smells, its sign and Fulcanelli and that safety pin... Certainly remarkable.
And if then that black is a lie.

[solomon levi]

Illen,
Graphite is simply carbon, so we can consider the manifestations of coal,
charcoal, soot, and diamond, as well as graphite. Then there may be some
connection to potassium carbonate as ash.

Carbon also makes sense as a first matter, since every living thing is carbon-based
on this planet.

I think I mentioned somewhere that ammonium carbonate is the simplest
matter that covers all four elements:

NH4CO3
Nitrogen - air
Hydrogen - fire
Oxygen - water
Carbon - earth

(is hydrogen fire or water? Fire consumes oxygen, so I guess it can't BE oxygen.
But when we talk about getting water we say "hydration". Hmmm?)

There is much talk about ammonium being the secret fire, so it deserves consideration.
Ammonium carbonate was called Salt of Hartshorn.

[BeautifulEvil]

Carbon can do some pretty interesting things. I know the "soot" that rises with fire has been known to contain buckyballs. It could be considered a "volatile" or "sublimed" form of carbon.

There is much talk about ammonium being the secret fire, so it deserves consideration.
Ammonium carbonate was called Salt of Hartshorn.

I've heard multiple things. Some say the secret fire is an ammonium salt, but others mention that the secret fire accompanies ammonium salts (they act as magnets). I'm not too sure what I believe, but I am of the notion that ammonium salts may be acting as magnets of the secret fire. Could be totally wrong though!

[solomon levi]

By other hand, I think from alcohol to antimony, there is a big phonetic difference ... ¿Don`t you think so?

Yes, but if the name "antimony" signifies the first matter, then the name
is phoenetic to coal, for the old ones called it "al kohl", which somehow
later became alcohol.

[solomon levi]

Carbon can do some pretty interesting things. I know the "soot" that rises with fire has been known to contain buckyballs. It could be considered a "volatile" or "sublimed" form of carbon.

There is much talk about ammonium being the secret fire, so it deserves consideration.
Ammonium carbonate was called Salt of Hartshorn.

I've heard multiple things. Some say the secret fire is an ammonium salt, but others mention that the secret fire accompanies ammonium salts (they act as magnets). I'm not too sure what I believe, but I am of the notion that ammonium salts may be acting as magnets of the secret fire. Could be totally wrong though!

But if lightning puts ammonia in the air and makes for better
rain water, then that's something other than a salt magnet. That is,
it supports the idea that the ammonia is secret fire and not magnet.