Re: Fulcanelli path

[pierre]

By other hand, I think from alcohol to antimony, there is a big phonetic difference ... ¿Don`t you think so?

Yes, but if the name "antimony" signifies the first matter, then the name
is phoenetic to coal, for the old ones called it "al kohl", which somehow
later became alcohol.

Hi solomon.
I agree with you that alcohol is used as a philosophical subject by some authors.

[pierre]

Carbon can do some pretty interesting things. I know the "soot" that rises with fire has been known to contain buckyballs. It could be considered a "volatile" or "sublimed" form of carbon.

There is much talk about ammonium being the secret fire, so it deserves consideration.
Ammonium carbonate was called Salt of Hartshorn.

I've heard multiple things. Some say the secret fire is an ammonium salt, but others mention that the secret fire accompanies ammonium salts (they act as magnets). I'm not too sure what I believe, but I am of the notion that ammonium salts may be acting as magnets of the secret fire. Could be totally wrong though!

But if lightning puts ammonia in the air and makes for better
rain water, then that's something other than a salt magnet. That is,
it supports the idea that the ammonia is secret fire and not magnet.

Hi, BE And solomon.
Many people think that dew containing a salt that has remarkable properties solvents. This very volatile salt of ammonium is NH4NO2. This salt should be distilled from dew to a very mild temperature, (60 º C maximum) because it oxidizes and becomes easily NH4NO3, and in this state is completely useless.

[BeautifulEvil]

Hi, BE And solomon.
Many people think that dew containing a salt that has remarkable properties solvents. This very volatile salt of ammonium is NH4NO2. This salt should be distilled from dew to a very mild temperature, (60 º C maximum) because it oxidizes and becomes easily NH4NO3, and in this state is completely useless.

I've heard of this before, but I can't recall where. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention.

Ammonium nitrite can be made by oxidizing ammonia with ozone. Ozone can be produced via high voltage corona discharge. In my opinion, this would yield a very interesting "philosophical' product (on account of the electricity).

[Illen A. Cluf]

Illen,
Graphite is simply carbon, so we can consider the manifestations of coal,
charcoal, soot, and diamond, as well as graphite. Then there may be some
connection to potassium carbonate as ash.

Carbon also makes sense as a first matter, since every living thing is carbon-based
on this planet.

I think I mentioned somewhere that ammonium carbonate is the simplest
matter that covers all four elements:

NH4CO3
Nitrogen - air
Hydrogen - fire
Oxygen - water
Carbon - earth

(is hydrogen fire or water? Fire consumes oxygen, so I guess it can't BE oxygen.
But when we talk about getting water we say "hydration". Hmmm?)

There is much talk about ammonium being the secret fire, so it deserves consideration.
Ammonium carbonate was called Salt of Hartshorn.

Hi Solomon,

Carbon is certainly a good candidate for further research. It's black, brittle, comes in layers like a closed book, marks the hands, and can come in 6-sided plates like the scales of a dragon (graphite). Fulcanelli states that the subject matter is associated with the number "6". Carbon is the sixth element and it also comes in 6-sided scales as mentioned above. It is also not either a metal or a true mineral.

Regarding ammonium carbonate, hydrogen is an important component of water, as is oxygen, but as separated from water, it is difficult to categorize where they should be included. The message seems to be that elements individually are different than their compounds, so the true test of whether a compound contains the four elelents is likley its overall properties

Illen.

[pierre]

Hi, BE And solomon.
Many people think that dew containing a salt that has remarkable properties solvents. This very volatile salt of ammonium is NH4NO2. This salt should be distilled from dew to a very mild temperature, (60 º C maximum) because it oxidizes and becomes easily NH4NO3, and in this state is completely useless.

I've heard of this before, but I can't recall where. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention.

Ammonium nitrite can be made by oxidizing ammonia with ozone. Ozone can be produced via high voltage corona discharge. In my opinion, this would yield a very interesting "philosophical' product (on account of the electricity).

BE, You only need collect and distill the dew gently, and the final resulting salt is ammonium nitrite. In the caput mortum is the nitrite, which is extracted by leaching and calcination of this caput mortum.