Re: The White Stone of Urine

[BeautifulEvil]

Well, it can be used for medicine or transmutation purposes. A small amount goes a long way.

With the alkali method, apparently discovered by NDC's group, a nearly 100% success rate has been achieved. I believe Field mentioned a strict diet - one with high phenol content (wine, meat, etc).

Some people are weary about posting transmutation results on an open forum. Field is an exception, but I am not. I've only shared mine with a few individuals. I've got a little something something I'm working on now. I'll share it with the forum when it's ready.

[kerkring]

I have a few questions...

1) This oil, do you store it until there's a significant amount?

2) ^As above, but then what do you do with it?

3) Is anyone on any special diets? Like a rawfoods diet, or taking massive amounts of medicinal herbs?

4) I see many people with success...but then nothing after. Never anything about what they use the stuff for, it's effects etc. What's going on...?

Thank you for your time. Peace.

I've only been doing experiments for little over a month so I've yet to do anything with it. The picture above was taken yesterday so it still needs to mature before I harvest. I intend to try projection on Pb but need to find a cheap and easy way of melting the metal and need to figure out what ratio of stone to metal I need to use.

I've been a vegetarian for about five years now, the sample from the picture above was collected after a wok meal consisting of various vegetables, rice and egg noodles, quorn and a soy-sesame sauce plus fanta.

[Alchemico]

Hmmm...so I take it you guys would be into taking high amounts of purple foods?

[Alchemico]

Hello again! So anyway, I was thinking of using the "urine in jar, bicarbonate way", but say if I have many jars together and after each other, how long would the extracted oil last (say if I start collecting it together in another jar?) Also, seriously what do I do with it? Take it as it is, or is there some sort of drying technique?

On a side note...has anyone mixed any of there *cough* thicker fluid in with the urine for this experiment?

[kerkring]

Hello again! So anyway, I was thinking of using the "urine in jar, bicarbonate way", but say if I have many jars together and after each other, how long would the extracted oil last (say if I start collecting it together in another jar?) Also, seriously what do I do with it? Take it as it is, or is there some sort of drying technique?

On a side note...has anyone mixed any of there *cough* thicker fluid in with the urine for this experiment?

There are a set of reactions going on in the urine so I would harvest it when it looks like what you see in this post:
http://alchemy-forums.forumotion.com/practical-alchemy-f4/the-white-stone-of-urine-t81-120.htm#3501

Then I transfered it to a small jar with some demineralised water in it, with a plastic spoon. Don't use too much water and don't let it stay in the jar for too long or the stone could dissolve. Then you can filter it of over a coffee filter and let it dry or wash again.

Then you can ingest it I think and maybe also do projection.

I've never used or read about anyone using semen. In the philosophers of nature material there was a procedure given from an old text which dealt with the making of a stone from human blood though.

[BeautifulEvil]

Then I transfered it to a small jar with some demineralised water in it, with a plastic spoon. Don't use too much water and don't let it stay in the jar for too long or the stone could dissolve. Then you can filter it of over a coffee filter and let it dry or wash again.

A plastic spoon is good, but I had a difficult time using one. I use a piece of clear plastic, cut up into a rectangle, and then bent to the shape of a spatula (a 90 degree angle). I then attach a wooden rod to the "handle" of the spatula. I carefully insert this under the layer (trying not to disturb it as much as possible), and then slowly raise it up. This method seems to capture a large chunk of the layer (depending on the size of your spatula).

Then I transfered it to a small jar with some demineralised water in it, with a plastic spoon. Don't use too much water and don't let it stay in the jar for too long or the stone could dissolve. Then you can filter it of over a coffee filter and let it dry or wash again.

I use distilled water or 99% rubbing alcohol. Rubbing alcohol is much easier to drive off at low heat (low evaporation temp). A coffee filter is pretty low quality, but it'll work. I would splurge on some good lab grade filters. You mentioned it shouldn't stay in the jar too long or it would dissolve. Did this happen to you? I've never encountered this, but that's because I always dry it before storage. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

I've never used or read about anyone using semen. In the philosophers of nature material there was a procedure given from an old text which dealt with the making of a stone from human blood though.

I've heard of some interesting things being done with semen. I definitely don't doubt a stone can be made from it, but I don't know of any procedures off the top of my head. If it's been written about, then it's been veiled in much symbolism, and not plainly revealed. There's a thread here that mentions making a homunculus from semen.

[kerkring]

I use distilled water or 99% rubbing alcohol. Rubbing alcohol is much easier to drive off at low heat (low evaporation temp). A coffee filter is pretty low quality, but it'll work. I would splurge on some good lab grade filters. You mentioned it shouldn't stay in the jar too long or it would dissolve. Did this happen to you? I've never encountered this, but that's because I always dry it before storage. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

When I first got a layer to form using morning urine and soda, I put the stone in a large jar that was almost completely filled with demineralised water. After 4-5 days the crystals had disappeared and the water had a foul smell. Now I use considerably less water and only wash it for a few hours at a time.

I've never used or read about anyone using semen. In the philosophers of nature material there was a procedure given from an old text which dealt with the making of a stone from human blood though. I've heard of some interesting things being done with semen. I definitely don't doubt a stone can be made from it, but I don't know of any procedures off the top of my head. If it's been written about, then it's been veiled in much symbolism, and not plainly revealed. There's a thread here that mentions making a homunculus from semen.

Lisiewski's new book, coming this winter, has his lab notes on his work with the homunculus.

[kerkring]

Follow up pic from my last picture post. This is after 10 days. Looks similar to the NDC's pictures of the oil layer when it has aged a bit.

[deviadah]

This thread has been infected by a tone of sarcasm by one ex-member called Field. I don' take sides in these matters, but I do think that the deleted contents of Fields posts is an annoyance. I have removed all the posts that I could find where Field has edited out the contents replacing it with the words: post deleted

If anyone doesn't want something to be permanent then please refrain from posting!

Please continue this excellent thread and let us leave this crap behind us...



I loath the elitism of alchemists!

[k89]

I've obtained an iridescent film by heating freshly collected golden water for a few hours.



The film after it is transferred to a beaker containing water:

[kerkring]

I've obtained an iridescent film by heating freshly collected golden water for a few hours.

The film after it is transferred to a beaker containing water:

Looks nice, what temperature did you use and was it morning urine or collected during the day?

[k89]

what temperature did you use

About 250 Celsius(That is the temperature my heater was set at) .The golden water did not boil.

was it morning urine or collected during the day?

During the day.

[SonofSol]

Avoiding these substances will increase the chances of gaining the purest oil, and gaining it more often, and generaly will increase the power of all spiritual-alchemy methods/rituals...

Mercury Dental Fillings (Removel must be done with the GREATEST care, or the mercury poisoning could increase 10 fold.... http://www.iaomt.org/)

Fluoride(Tap water, buy fluoride free toothpaste, or ones containing CALCIUM fluoride, not SODIUM Fluoride)

Aspartame/MSG... Refined white Sugar... ect

Good Luck

[sealedflask]

NDC Emailed this to me, and I have not tried it yet, because it seems to complicate the procedure to me, but if a larger batch can be made in such a short time, then I suppose it would be worth trying. The relevant portion of the email is this-


...As for the golden water path, I recently figured out a way to make the oil form very fast. It will not appear to be the same oil, but it is:
You simply add a tablespoon of lime to the liquid, and the calcium bonds to all the organic junk causing a very larger amount of precipitant to form. Once this settles completely in less than an hour, then you can pour off the top liquid and save it, then discard the precipitant. Now shake the container of liquid and let it sit for a few hours. The oil will be clear and somewhat foamy at first. You can remove it with a plastic spoon or a piece of plastic. Then dip the spoon in clean water, and when it floats to the top, remove it again, and clean again. Then you need to put he oil on some acidic water that has been lowered to pH of between 4-6 so the oil can become acidic like it was naturally in the first place before you added the lime. Now the oil can be distilled several times at very low temperature until it does not distill over anymore. It will remain a fixed salt which is now fusible with the metals, but can also be multiplied


Also- I'm interested if anybody can lead me in the correct direction concerning the lamp that continuously burns the white stone, without consuming it.