Re: white stone

[harveydent]

true, but one contains iridium rhodium and platinum the other contains silver (luna) and gold (sol).

What a profit their making selling milky paste with no fine gold in it. 29.99 and immortality is yours.. yeah right!

Forgive my scepticism, but if it was that easy we'd all be drinking the stuff... Although I must confess I have drunk loads of gold leaf flakes with absolutely no dicernable differance, I didnt glow comming off a mount clutching a tablet in my hand! (Maybe the alcohol mixed with it made me feel like I did for 5-hours, but nasty headache in the morning!).

[horticult]

6.,7.,8..03.08 i started 3 batches of golden water, each day separately, in order
to get that oil. diluted by distilled water 1:1. 6&8 stored in glass dia15x16cm, 7.
in plastic oval 37x25x4cm, all open. stored in a twilight room, temperature cca
19oC.
long time basically nothing.
today - 5.4.:
6.: several grey-silver "maps" on surface, very very thin membrane, drop surface 2cm
7.: something on the surface, but not iridiscent, almost everything evaporated
8.: several 1mm specks on surface, drop surface 2cm

so, where is some mistake? what i should do to continue??

[harveydent]

Try one of these;

[BeautifulEvil]

Forgive my scepticism, but if it was that easy we'd all be drinking the stuff... Although I must confess I have drunk loads of gold leaf flakes with absolutely no dicernable differance, I didnt glow comming off a mount clutching a tablet in my hand! (Maybe the alcohol mixed with it made me feel like I did for 5-hours, but nasty headache in the morning!).

Gold, in it's natural elemental state, is actually a biologically inactive element, and passes through the body unused. This is why you hear me mention the "white powder" of gold in many of my threads. The white powder of gold is not biologically inactive, and is quite active. The white powder of gold can only be produced by an enormous amount of heat and fire. There are various wet methods to produce it, but I feel the ancient method of producing the white powder is much better. The gold is not only burned, but it is incinerated into ashes. This white power of gold is not elemental, and will not show up as gold when subjected to analysis. This white powder is already supremely strong, if you obtain the real thing, but can also be multiplied and concentrated.

so, where is some mistake? what i should do to continue??

I have found that the addition of saliva is the key to the production of the oil, but you cannot just add saliva to the urine - there is a process. Get a cup of distilled water, drink from it some, and then set it aside for a day or so. Be sure to cover it up, we don't want any bugs to fall in and spoil the water. Take some of this water and place it in a new cup, and then proceed to collect the GW as one would normally. This will insure the production of the oil, and it most often occurs within a week, but has been known to take up to a month. Once you have a good batch, you can collect the oil/film and in a week or so it will have produced more.

[horticult]

Hello BeautifulEvil,
thx 4 re.
Sorry, but I am not sure what did you mean /I am not english native/. Should I
take a cup of a distilled water, take a sip from it, let it stay, and the rest then use
for diluting /1:1 ?/ ??.
Btw, I am planning to make some ORMUS from sea salt via lye, stuff from
blender or mg trap was without effect, but I am missing proper salt - hard to get
some raw & without bloody iodine...

[horticult]

[harveydent]

You see what I'm driving at though dont you BeautifulEvil, sea water and lye, their all at it...

Mercury Poisoning (Sea water will make you mad for a reason)

[harveydent]

On a seperate note, gold has been found to bond with sulphur. Article located here.

P-mercaptobenzoic acids, thats erm, a mercury based acid, so you can say yay for mercury now!

[BeautifulEvil]

Should I take a cup of a distilled water, take a sip from it, let it stay, and the rest then use for diluting 1:1?

Yeah, you got it! That's exactly what I mean, but you need to "age" the water some before you dilute the urine with it. Also, I believe the ratio should be more like 1:4 (water:urine).

Interesting picture horticult, is that what I think it is?

You see what I'm driving at though dont you BeautifulEvil, sea water and lye, their all at it...

Yeah, I've never been a proponent of the seawater/ormus production method. There are too many impurities in sea water, and even though some m-state metals may exist in sea water, there are just too many bad things that outweigh the good.

I believe the true way to create m-state transition metal elixirs is to burn them to "ashes." This is the particular method the ancients used to produce the white powder of gold.
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[horticult]

Dried stuff collected from surface and washed /washing on previous 1 harvest photo/.

[BeautifulEvil]

That definitely looks like the white stone, and it also looks very pure. What do you plan on doing with it? Are you going to use it as a medicine, or for transmutation purposes? I'm glad to see others are succeeding.

It seems like you didn't have much of a problem with producing the iridescent oil/film. Did you use the saliva+water method I mentioned?

[horticult]

The film took 1 month to create and was not iridiscent. Washing took a lot of cycles, as this stuff is hyperconcentrated stink ;-). Today I took a little of it, no effect. Anyway, I wonder how to take it - classically in white wine, although it should be not soluble?? Saliva method I use on the last batch yesterdy, aged from Sunday. How many harvests did you crop from 1surface/batch? I would appreciate some hints how to the red; thx a lot 4 inspiration and advices.

[BeautifulEvil]

The film took 1 month to create and was not iridiscent.

I've noticed that an iridescent oil/film doesn't always form, but most often or not a clear, plastic like, layer forms. I'm sure these are the same, but the iridescent oil/film is more powerful than the clear.

Washing took a lot of cycles, as this stuff is hyperconcentrated stink ;-).

Yes, I had a definite problem removing the smell from the powder. I still haven't fully removed it yet, but I've only done a handful of washes on my stone.

Today I took a little of it, no effect.

I took a very small amount, probably not even enough to achieve an effect. I'd like to know what it is before I increase the dosage. Nobody has a clue as to the composition of this substance.

Anyway, I wonder how to take it - classically in white wine, although it should be not soluble??

It most definitely should not be soluble in alcohol or water. I've yet to test its solubility in an acidic environment, but I'm sure it'll be soluble in hydrochloric acid.

Saliva method I use on the last batch yesterdy, aged from Sunday. How many harvests did you crop from 1surface/batch?

I was only able to harvest around 3 times.

I would appreciate some hints how to the red; thx a lot 4 inspiration and advices.

I have not been successful in producing the red stone. Everything I know is posted in the thread titled "The Red Stone."

I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible to create the red stone from the white stone, but I think the trick is a long digestion time @ 120f.

[horticult]

I need to do some considerations and planning. I need some estimation of needed time&temperatures, to build some adequate gadget/incubator. Did you also have transparent crystals in powder? /visible on photo/ My powder is completely without a taste. I read your posts on Red.

but the iridescent oil/film is more powerful than the clear.

Any evidence for this?

[BeautifulEvil]

I need to do some considerations and planning. I need some estimation of needed time&temperatures, to build some adequate gadget/incubator.

Estimates? A few days for digestion at 120f. Make sure the vessel is sealed, and then start heating. Watch for the color changes.

Did you also have transparent crystals in powder?

Indeed, did you ever get a chance to look at the image I posted of the oil/film setting in a container of water? If not I can send you a PM with the location of the image.

My powder is completely without a taste.

I noticed a slight salty taste in mine, but I'm sure that was from the impurities from not properly washing.

Any evidence for this?

No evidence whatsoever, it's just what I've been hearing on various alchemy boards and mailing lists.