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Re: Seven

Post  Jepetto on Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:12 pm

BeautifulEvil wrote:Ah, so we come across the horse again!

Dr. Seuss must've been an initiate in the cabala.

I had never considered any connections between the writings of Dr. Seuss and the mystical studies before, though it has been a long time since I had read any of his works before this one. Your comment here inspired me to do a search and there are a couple interesting pages about the Dr. and the interpretations of his writings. Very interesting stuff.

A Qabalistic Interpretation Of Dr. Seuss' Green Eggs And Ham
The Secret Alchemy of Dr. Seuss

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Post  WCH on Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:48 pm

Interesting coincidence, I was just last night having a conversation with a friend who's doing a Qaballistic analysis of Dr Seuss, and now you mention it here.

Cabala and Qaballah are not the same thing, of course. Still quite the coincidence.

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Post  Jepetto on Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:20 am

WCH wrote:Interesting coincidence, I was just last night having a conversation with a friend who's doing a Qaballistic analysis of Dr Seuss, and now you mention it here.

Cabala and Qaballah are not the same thing, of course. Still quite the coincidence.

Can you please share some more info on the differences? I have always had the impression that they were the same though the 'Q' spelling was closer to the Hebrew translation from QBLH and the 'C' and 'K' spellings were more western and modern interpretations of the word.

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Post  Shamshir_Zomorrodnegar on Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:15 pm

also consider seven as the synthesis of the opposing aspects of three and four.

three is energy in motion, it is heat and fire. the three sided triangle is an arrow, a pointer, and is used to signify fire and forward movement. the four sided square is energy stabilized, it is foundation, it is stability and stationary.

so seven combines the movement of three with the stability of four.

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Post  WCH on Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:25 pm

Jepetto wrote:
WCH wrote:Interesting coincidence, I was just last night having a conversation with a friend who's doing a Qaballistic analysis of Dr Seuss, and now you mention it here.

Cabala and Qaballah are not the same thing, of course. Still quite the coincidence.

Can you please share some more info on the differences? I have always had the impression that they were the same though the 'Q' spelling was closer to the Hebrew translation from QBLH and the 'C' and 'K' spellings were more western and modern interpretations of the word.
From the "Preface to the Second Edition" of Fulcanelli's Mystere des Cathedrales.
... this mother tongue should never be confused with the Jewish Kabbala. Though never spoken, the phonetic cabala, this forceful idiom, is easily understood and it is -- at least according to Cyrano de Bergerac -- the instinct or voice of Nature. By contrast, the Jewish Kabbala is full of transpositions, inversions, substitutions and calculations, as arbitrary as they are abstruse. This is why it is important to distinguish between the two words cabala and kabbala, in order to use them knowledgeably. Cabala derives from _____ or from the Latin caballus, a horse; kabbala is from the Hebrew Kabbalah, which means tradition. Finally, figurative meanings like coterie, underhand dealing or intrigue, developed in modern usage by analogy, should be ignored so as to reserve for the noun cabala the only significance which can be assured for it.

The accuracy of these statements I don't really know. I'm a novice and largely uninitiated. (note: I didn't write the Greek word he says Cabala derives from because I don't have a Greek script on this computer, there is a word there)

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Post  Jepetto on Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:58 pm

WCH wrote:The accuracy of these statements I don't really know. I'm a novice and largely uninitiated. (note: I didn't write the Greek word he says Cabala derives from because I don't have a Greek script on this computer, there is a word there)


Thank you WCH, this helps clarify a bit more on this subject and also helps me understand better what Beautiful Evil had said above regarding the horse.

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Post  Jepetto on Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:22 pm

Shamshir_Zomorrodnegar wrote:also consider seven as the synthesis of the opposing aspects of three and four.

three is energy in motion, it is heat and fire. the three sided triangle is an arrow, a pointer, and is used to signify fire and forward movement. the four sided square is energy stabilized, it is foundation, it is stability and stationary.

so seven combines the movement of three with the stability of four.


Good call. Three could also represent spirit and four form. Thus 3+4 would be the domination of spirit over form. In reverse, 4+3, would tell us that form rules over spirit.

Id be curious to see what equations others can come up with for seven. Ive got some notes but need to get the ideas into a presentable form.

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Post  Shamshir_Zomorrodnegar on Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:00 pm

"Thus 3+4 would be the domination of spirit over form. In reverse, 4+3, would tell us that form rules over spirit."

yes, good point. or the 3 + 4 scenario could be seen as spirit manifested into physical form, the perfect union of spirit and matter.

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