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Post  taceyoto on Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:19 am

Hey Everyone, I hope this is the right category, I did a search and I couldn't find anything like this, if I missed it my apologies!

What brought you to Alchemy? How did you make this choice?
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Post  BeautifulEvil on Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:39 am

Hey Everyone, I hope this is the right category, I did a search and I
couldn't find anything like this, if I missed it my apologies!

This seems like the perfect spot for such a thread.

What brought you to Alchemy? How did you make this choice?

I had a rather weird "spiritual" experience early in my life as a teenager. I would go into more detail here, but I believe I wrote about this experience in my introduction thread.

Anyway, ever since then I've been deeply interested in the occult. Around a year ago I realized alchemy and the occult are very similiar, and can't be seperated. Up until that point I mainly had occult knowledge without much alchemical knowledge. Sure, I understood most of the spiritual aspects of alchemy, but I didn't understand the practical physical aspects of alchemy. To make a long story short: after much uncertainty I finally decided to watch Fullmetal Alchemist, and after watching the anime I began to intensly research laboratory alchemy and the Elixir of Life/Philosophers Stone.

I didn't make this choice to get rich or anything, but I just believe it's the next phase of my evolutionary process. It brings me closer to Godhead and the union with all.

Heh, I was brainscattered while writing this post -- I hope it's understandable.

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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  deviadah on Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:53 am

I was actually studying Thoth and I thus stumbled upon the Emerald Tablet. It took a while before I understood the alchemical significance (and in those days I didn't even know what alchemy was). The reason I was studying Thoth was because I had stumbled upon a book on Atlantis... and I was deep into Ancient Egypt. In fact alchemy came to me through a combination of several things that just naturally seemed to unite, and once it all clicked in my brain I was stuck - and here I am!

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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  sleeveless on Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:04 pm

My friend told me that some of my pictures look kind of alchemistic....at that time I didn't know what alchemy was....It was one year ago!

And he told me so much interesting stuff... that fits in to my kind of thinking... so now I'm very interested and just want to know more about it!

My brain is open to learn...so just continue to post so I can fill me up... LOL
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Post  taceyoto on Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:00 pm

I have read about and had an interest in it since I was 13, I was homebound with illness at the time so I wasn't in school. All I did was read. I read everything, novels, texts, dictionaries and encyclopedias (I am currently 20 pages form finishing my Encyclopedia of the Occult) and have had a fondness for history, religion, and mysteries my entire life. The one thing that got me was a story about the Comte St. Germain. I saw something about him (I fancy documentaries as well) and was interested so I did further research and discovered gained a bigger interest in Alchemy. I also find the Comte himself interesting still.
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Post  deviadah on Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:07 pm

Yeah I love that guy too... a real inspiration!

It is only lack of time that has stopped me from creating a topic about him...

I will soon unless you want to beat me to it (which is ok)... place it in History of Alchemy if you do!

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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  LadyHydralisk on Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:17 am

Hmm, well I'd known about the Emerald tablet for a good long while but I wasn't familiar with how it connected to a larger body of Alchemy and Hermetics.

I consider myself a hermeticist because of the Emerald Tablet, and like all really brilliant individuals you simply must have many facets to draw upon to manage efficiently in magick or the occult.

Actually Visceral/Spagyrical (aka Logos on abrahadabra) pointed me in the right direction to classical European alchemy when I asked him what the hell he was talking about on Occult Forums. I was fascinated with it, and dropped all of my Qabalal studies to research it.

I'm not very interested in this author or that author as far as alchemy goes - I like the emerald tablet and I like the core principles of alchemy, the scientific methodology and the aesthetics of laboratory alchemy appeal to me. That's not shallow, it's merely Satanic. If I could I would have a arcane laboratory with brains in jars on the shelf and skeletons and I would probably sample a great amount of the specimens even.

Alchemy is not my primary path and if I had to say I had one it would be the path of absolute reality, nothing else will do.
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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  m1thr0s on Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:13 am

I was forcibly driven to alchemy based upon an in-depth investigation of magick that ultimately left me feeling saturated in corrosive rhetorical goo, signifying nothing and accomplishing even less...

my interest in magick was purely academic anyway...it was always the tech that intrigued me the most and little by little I came to discover that the tech itself...where it actually had anything real to offer...was all begged, borrowed or stolen from alchemical sources anyway...

But for myself, alchemy fails to qualify as a spiritual path per se...I think of it much more as a scientific discipline...maybe the science end of occultism in general. So it's the methodology I embrace - not so much the aesthetic which I find just as full of double-talk as anything else...though I am still partial to its symbolisms which tend to be better evolved than most...But I am a globalist and I don't need alchemy to define God for me...I can turn to the entire world to sort that crap out.

It's the Body of Light I am tracking in this immediate incarnation...that's all I really have much time for or ongoing interest in. I keep an eye on things but that's always where it all comes back to for myself. And what I have discovered is that the whole language of the Body of Light is horribly under-developed even in alchemy which might have fared better than it has by now if it hadn't become so peculiarly arrested coming out of the middle-ages in Europe and all but completely abandoned in the far east...They were building this really great starship and suddenly everybody seems to have laid down their tools and walked off the job.

Which leaves us with a bunch of decent tools and a perfectly good starship 80% built to specs already...suits me. So I'm mainly just picking up where everybody seems to have left off at...I think I probably drew my personal vision of what alchemy ought to be from Albert Hoffman's work, actually....that and certain eastern sources of course which ultimately empowered that vision more fully.

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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  LadyHydralisk on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:51 pm

Oh Albert Hoffman, yeah cool dude...still alive too, at 101....

Yes - it's hard to discuss the body of light, I think a few words might need to be coined...

China suffered a lot at the end of the Sui dynasty, and one could argue Britain only confounded things, but on the contrary I think that was quite beneficial for the world in general, in many unexpected ways...
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What brought me to Alchemy

Post  Radiant Star on Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:16 pm

Its kind of strange how I have ended up in the Alchemy wing. Its almost unwillingly since I only ever joined my first occult forum looking for an answer to just one question and I fully expected to get into witchcraft if anything at all. I read a little, it was all gobbledegook and made no sense to me but a few nights later, there were these apparitions or hallucinations or something - I still have no idea what they were or even what they mean and that was in 2003. The only thing I was sure about is that they were somehow important.

Months later, not really having chosen any kind of pathway and just as an experiment, I decided to try a ritual and got a good result, so I tried something else and got another outstanding result, since that ritual seemed historically to lead back to Hermes, I read the Kybalion; that made sense to me more than any other kind of thing I had come across at that time.

Over the past couple of years, not really making Alchemical connections, I took a few local courses basically in the history of magic with no real understanding or expectations of what the classes would be about. A clear pattern emerged of Hermeticism and Alchemy. A short while after that I had been sitting in a mind-fog at home wondering what to do next and I had some kind of vision. It was a timeline running from Hermes to the future. I was viewing it as if from above the earth and the timeline was like a road on a map below, as I zoomed in I could see my name etched in among others in a whole line right from Hermes Trismegistus to future names as if I had a place in the history of Hermeticism and Alchemy. There were a few other coincidences around this too and I realized that this was a way forward for now at least.

I have no idea what my particular role is, I am only aware of playing a part in it all.
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Post  LadyHydralisk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:45 pm

Well that's cool as all hell Ricci, thanks for sharing...
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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  deviadah on Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:47 pm

Yeah Ricci... coincidences is a key word when it comes to alchemy/hermeticism. I see this a lot with people who are into it and how they became involved. I think it is a result of the fact that this Sacred Art is present as a subtext of mankinds entire culture since the dawn of consciousness! That is why all other things shrink when placed next to this Art!

It has been around for thousands of years, and it will remain with us till the end of our race!

Hermes, or whatever name you want to fix to what s/he represents, is the constant companion of us all and s/he is truly (hu)mans best friend - dogs are the second best (or cats depending on your karma)!

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Post  BeautifulEvil on Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:47 pm

Yeah Ricci... coincidences is a key word when it comes to alchemy/hermeticism. I see this a lot with people who are into it and
how they became involved. I think it is a result of the fact that this Sacred Art is present as a subtext of mankinds entire culture since the dawn of consciousness! That is why all other things shrink when placed next to this Art!

The divine speaks to us in the language of coincidence and synchronicity. It's my belief that reaching godhead results in infinite synchronicity (or insanity, take your pick!).

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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  Radiant Star on Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:21 am

deviadah wrote:Hermes, or whatever name you want to fix to what s/he represents, is the constant companion of us all and s/he is truly (hu)mans best friend...
Not sure I have ever really thought about what Hermes represents to me personally; this is a good line of investigation for me right now I think.

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Post  Radiant Star on Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:22 am

BeautifulEvil wrote:The divine speaks to us in the language of coincidence and synchronicity. It's my belief that reaching godhead results in infinite synchronicity (or insanity, take your pick!).
There has certainly been a lot of that over the last few years, well in fact, it has been there all along but I have only just noticed how much in recent years.
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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  harveydent on Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:11 am

taceyoto wrote:Hey Everyone, I hope this is the right category, I did a search and I couldn't find anything like this, if I missed it my apologies!

What brought you to Alchemy? How did you make this choice?

The chance of discovering the elixir and zapping people out of my way with bolts of lightning is highly appealing! Third Eye

"I find your lack of faith disturbing" **zip, crackle, "Argh!"** LOL



"You will pay the price for your lack of vision!" - Emperor Palpatine (1977)

But all joking aside, its also said to be the cure for anything and everything.

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Re: What Brought you to Alchemy?

Post  monkeyblood on Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:00 am

harveydent wrote:

The chance of discovering the elixir and zapping people out of my way with bolts of lightning is highly appealing! Third Eye

"I find your lack of faith disturbing" **zip, crackle, "Argh!"** :lol!


LOL......Oh I like that....I had no idea....you've all been keeping that under your hoods........I think I'll be dropping astrology now......bugger divination....

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Post  harveydent on Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:30 am

harveydent wrote:

LOL......Oh I like that....I had no idea....you've all been keeping that under your hoods........I think I'll be dropping astrology now......bugger divination....

Has it ever divined anything for you apart from the fact your missing wedding ring is stuck in the U-bend of the kitchen or bathroom sink?
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Post  harveydent on Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:53 am

Become an astrologer, god forbid have to answer crack pots all day who ask, why is my phallus so small, one phone call that came in once was a girl who'd caught her boyfriend cheating on her, after half an hour, sorry but you realise you've been with the astrologer for half an hour now and thats cost you £30.00 her reply was a classic, "I dont care, its that cheating #?@$4rd's Credit Card!"
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Not even the power of the legendary philosophers stone can give them a bigger willy, they'll just have to learn to accept what they've got...

Man: "My libedo has waned to almost nothing and I cant get it up, what do the stars suggest I do?"

Astrologer: "Consult your physician about such matters, not your astrologer and ask for Viagra!" LOL

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Post  monkeyblood on Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:58 pm

......hmmm....phonelines,don't do them.....too many unevolved nutjobs who think astrologers are a mixture of John Edwards and Zara the Gypsy.......dont want to despoil the art.....so don't do horary......astrology is a princely science.Commerce and astrology means compromise......

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Post  harveydent on Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:17 am

Exactly my point, granted astrology does provide some answers, like who they might fall in love with and whom they might end up marrying, but it is not a cure all for everything that ales them, likewise with colloidial gold, it wont cure everything under the sun, despite snake oil salesmens claims to the contrary, people still ingest things like collodial copper and silver and run a very high risk of poisoning themselves.

I'll stay clear of astrology for the masses and stick to astrology for just myself, but it hasnt helped me win the lottery (yet!), likewise I never read the astrology bit in newspapers, because as any astrologer will tell you its an exact science, without your exact time of birth and the location you where born, their calcualtions cant be totally accurate. Mystic's, stars and numerologists, I'll stick with sorcery and thaumaturgy, the will and the word, its a lot simpler. Third Eye

The human body generates an electrical field and gold is a marvelous electrical conductor or so we're told, so perhaps swigging collodial gold isnt such a bad idea.

If swigging colloidial silver turns your skin gray with Argyria (silver poisoning) I wonder if swigging nano sized particles of gold turns you bright yellow. Swigging all these metals cant be good for you despite what snake oil salesmen claim, silver build up is harmful.

Alchemy, hehe, what a way to get sunburn (unless its a metallic sheen, then youd just glow), but hey your all welcome to turn yourself into a giant walking gold electrode, heh, just dont go out in a lightning storm!!!



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Post  harveydent on Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:06 am

It's a poison in large dosages this is why everyone is being told to use only a drop on their tongue, if it was not these people selling it as the ultimate cure all would advocate swigging the whole bottle!!

The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Gold poisoning includes the 10 symptoms listed below:

Dermatitis
Headache
Vomiting
Bone marrow depression
Nephrotic syndrome
Jaundice
Cholestasis
Pneumonitis
Gastrointestinal bleeding
Ocular chrysiasis

So in retrospect I'll stick to herbalism and ginseng! Confused Less chance of poisoning myself. Tongue

If I want to drink gold, monatomic or not, i'll stick with a bottle of Goldschläger Third Eye

As with any medicine, too much of it can in all probability kill you, ingesting it as a gold leaf allows your stomache a better chance of breaking it down in the acid's your own body can produce or passing it out, but ingesting it in nano-particles allows it into your bloodstream, kidneys, liver, etc.

A good reason to avoid White-Pepper, the tiny grains of white pepper build up in your kidneys and this has been found to cause more a lot more harm than good... BEWARE snake oil salesmen and smooth talking health store salesmen. Their selling us poisonous rubbish and they dont care because their parting you from the real gold, your cash!

The bit that intreasts me with alchemy is the stone cold science.

It was the transmutation of gold into another substance, not the ingestion of nano-particles of raw gold. Wink

The ancients also used to sniff yopo, drink mescaline, drink opium and sniff cocaine, im conviced that if the snake oil sellers could get away with it they'd try to sell us those too!
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They disolved gold into arsnic to create gold plate (paint), they didnt disolve it in it to find the stone...

Rumoured to be how Napoleon met his end, inhaling arsnic paint fumes from his house wallpaper...

Here a website I was looking at earlier, listen to his fantastic claims for copper, then consider this; Symptoms of copper poisoning are very similar to those produced by arsenic. Fatal cases are generally terminated by convulsions, palsy, and insensibility. Suspect

Your body dosnt flush out copper silver or gold, once its in there its in there for good!

Their claim's that it fights off disease's are laughable, if I was to put a silver penny, a copper penny and a gold penny in my mouth and suck them for half an hour, I would in theory achive the same result as a drop of it in the mouth, so all I can say is how ridiculus that sounds!

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Post  monkeyblood on Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:45 pm

The above two posts are of real interest to me.....the effects of metals in the human body....we have a problem with copper toxicity over here....maybe they should be made into a thread called Metal Effects or something.....I just found my colloidal silver maker ....so how much is too much?

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A very good question

Post  harveydent on Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:13 am

That is the question, I dont know the answer, swallowed raw silver and raw gold, niether has ever had any preventative properties with regards to health (I've still caught the flu) I once lived in a place with copper pipes for the plumbing and that didnt do anything either, stick to the herb's, you'll still get the common cold.

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A very good question

Post  harveydent on Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:15 am

You cant poison yourself into the bargin by taking too meny herbal teas. (depends on the herb!)

I would stear clear of metal ingestion all together, sure go for it and drop some finely powdered electrum if you feel like it, but anything like 50mg of raw silver colloidial or silver nitrate is considered the lethal dose!

I have grey hairs, so much for copper stopping grey hairs!

When I was 13 my parents shoved me into a martial arts class because I was a weedy guy who always got picked on at school, I grew up studing differant philosophys on and off for years, Karate, Kung-Fu, Ninjitsu, Tai-Chi, Qi Gong and several other forms of self defence that have long winded names.

It never turned me into a confident person, god know's if theirs a big fight I am the first one to leave a dust trail going the other direction, but heres a story that will make you laugh, a few years back I was in a bar getting drunk (very drunk!) it got to the point where I could hardly stand up and the barman a big man with muscles and a very bad attitude (ex-military) grabbed me by the scruff of my shirt and threw me out. When I recovered enough of my balance to find I could stand up I discovered I had left my bag with my belongings in his bar, so despite his warning to go home, I went back to get my bag, he immediatly singled me out after all I am not a very big guy and hardly intimidating, he said "I told you to get out" his wife protested because I had already explained to her that all I wanted was my bag, he responded by giving her a slap in the face, then started shoving me towards the door, so I told him straight "look man all I want is my travel pass and my bag, then you can go back to hitting your wife!" that went down just great, he roared "YOU WHAT!" and started swinging punches (most of which I dodged which made him all the more angry). When he did connect a glancing blow and I just snapped after all this guy had bent my arm behind my back and already used my head as a door opener into the alley once already, next thing he knew this little guy he was shoving turned around and caught him with the best upper cut you've ever seen in your life, both his feet left the floor, which was followed up by a side kick straight into his solar plexus, he flew backwards over the pool table, hit floor and just lay their moaning. Everyone in the bar strangly enough moved as far away from me as possible as I calmly got my bag and left!

I dont think they'd ever seen a little slip of a guy make an ex-military paratrooper fly through the air!!

I decry violence, I never like to resort to my fist's, but word has it, his wife left him shortly after, people feared and respected him as he had a reputation for being a bit nasty.

The age old philosophy springs sharply to mind, "never judge a book by its cover" it is possible to make someone float in the air (levitation!) only not in the way people imagine.

Its not just throwing fists with force, its knowing where to connect that force that turns it into energy, inner harmony becomes outwards force. (sometimes with deadly results)

Sun Tze was correct; 'Know your enemy to know yourself, over confidence is a downfall of meny a big man!'

Bruce Lee "Never tighten your fist until the moment of impact!"

Some people would get off on being able to do that to someone else, but I hate it, its an ability I spent a life time learning and what is it good for besides inflicting a world of hurt? Inner harmony, inner strength, yeah right thats why nearly every wrist lock can break a wrist and some techniques can snap the spine like a twig, those wrist locks are not to restrain your opponent, their so you can break his wrist, after all, that leaves him with one arm to hit you with dosnt it!

These philosophys sprang from a nation that devoted itself at one time to one thing and one thing only, WAR!

If you're wondering what the differance is in both the philosophy of karate and kung-fu, the answer is one is repetative to drill in the basics for self defence, more of a contact sport these days than useful on the street, then take a kung-fu class the contrast soon becomes apparent when the instructor tells you to put one knee in his testicles and gouge out his eyes...

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You dont even have to swing a fist to be effective, when you put your open hand towards someones face they instinctivly lean backwards and thats it you've got them, because they are completely off balance.

Dont let them grapple (that can be painful) and remember to dodge a big fist (those can be painful too!)

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