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Post  Tony D. Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:17 am

Hello All,

I am just getting my feet wet using the Wet Method. After precipitating the mixed salt solution (using Bokek DSS, and/or Celtic Salts mixed with mineral water, boiled, filtered, and slowly titrated with a 16:1 dilution of NAOH), I want to drop the pH from 10.7 to about 9. I was going to shoot for 8.5, but then I read Solomon Levi's post about going to 9 and it makes sense to me;)

I've read where some drop the pH with lemon juice but don't like the idea because the "juice" is perishable, or where distilled white vinegar is used but I hate the smell and taste of DWV, another option would be some SmartFG but can't seem to find any, so that leaves me with hcl.

I am looking for an online source that delivers to a home (I am fighting ataxia) and came across this source:
http://www.chemical-supermarket.com/Hydrochloric-Acid-38-500ml-p157.html

"Brand/Grade: This is 38% (w/w) concentration made by Air Products (formerly
Ashland), Cleanroom/Semiconductor grade, high purity, low particulate."


The cost is about $58. which includes delivery for a 500ml bottle.

I will probably dilute with 125% of distilled water which in my guess-estimate would bring the pH to close to 3, which is safer to use and handle, but should still be effective. I will also wash the precipitate before and after the pH drop with distilled water.

I would appreciate any opinions on the source/price and quality for ingestion. It sounds to me as if the quality is pure enough.

Thanks in advance for the help,
Tony

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Post  solomon levi Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:34 pm

Hi.
2 gallons of Muriatic acid at Lowes for $9.98

a much better, cheaper deal.
That's what I use.

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Post  BeautifulEvil Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:51 am

I posted this in your introduction thread, but also felt it would serve a great purpose in this thread.

About the HCl, you can distill some of the dead sea/ocean salt to obtain a philosophical hydrochloric acid. Just lightly dry distill the salt, bubble the hydrogen chloride fumes through some distilled water, and voila you have philosophical HCl! I think John French's book "The Art of Distillation" mentions this method.

You can only reach a certain percentage with this, but even then, it's just as strong as muriatic acid from the store (MUCH more pure I suppose). The percentage, if my memory doesn't fail, should be 38%. This is "concentrated" hcl, and honestly, I can't think of many other uses for higher grade HCl (I must dilute my concentrated acid before use).
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