Elixir of Life

[BeautifulEvil]

Here is an interesting website I found while browsing through another alchemy message board: Elixir of Life [link broken]

[deviadah]

Yes the Elixir of Life is a great topic. It can be discussed both in spiritual and practical terms, but since you posted this here I guess we can look at it from the latter perspective. Although, as I have stated elsewhere, I am not skilled so much in the practical side other than having studied it from a historical perspective.

There are some who are claimed to have managed to produce it, one being Comte de Saint Germain. He is an amazing charachter of history, and - due to the elixir - supposedly still alive!

[Iggy Walker]

Some more stuff: http://www.katinkahesselink.net/elixir.htm
Also this by Honore de Balzac: The Elixir of Life

[BeautifulEvil]

This physical process of making the Elixer of Life from Saturn and base lead is most interesting. The key of the whole working is actually realizing the Prima Materia!

Once this is realized, the whole work comes into perspective. The words of many old alchemists begin to make sense, and the connections begin to come together in the most fascinating way.

The site in the original post is very informative. It almost plainly states the secret! It's quite noticeable when you read it a few times along with other alchemical texts.

[deviadah]

One of the chapters in the link of the first post in this thread talks of The Secret of Secrets and Aristotles wrote on this, and here it is:

Secret Secretorum by Aristotle (or so they say)

Yes, blood contains iron and there is a well in Glastonbury that's supposed to rejuvenate whoever drinks from it, and the water tastes almost like blood because it's so much iron in it.

[BeautifulEvil]

Yes, blood contains iron and there is a well in Glastonbury that's supposed to rejuvenate whoever drinks from it, and the water tastes almost like blood because it's so much iron in it.

Yes, I've heard of the well! Very interesting stuff, and I would like to get a sample of the water to conduct some experiments with. Anybody live in Glastonbury?

[deviadah]

I got a friend there... I am trying to get him to join this forum!

We shall see if my efforts are worth it!

[BeautifulEvil]

Very cool!

Maybe he can compose a field report on the well and post it on the board. There's nothing more enjoyable than actual field work.

[Barandos the Red]

Hmm, personally I don't believe there is any elixir that will give you eternal life. However, it wouldn't surprise me if there was an elixir which could lengthen your life significantly.

[BeautifulEvil]

Hmm, personally I don't believe there is any elixir that will give you eternal life. However, it wouldn't surprise me if there was an elixir which could lengthen your life significantly.

True enough, and it turns into a real philosophical debate at this point. Eternal life actually implies one should live physically for an infinite amount of time, or at least until the end of time. I really don't think that a living thing can sustain a cloak of matter for an infinite amount of time, but I do believe life can be significantly extended.

It's all relative..

[deviadah]

It is also relative to what is meant by eternal life!

If one can leave the physical realm and travel the dimensional realm then of course that realm will have a different time (or no time), and one can - in 2 sec - live for a thousand years!

Most dreams we remember only occur in seconds, but they seem longer, so if the Elixir of Life can aid this area of experience the concept of eternal life is fully possible. It all depends on what you deem eternal life.

It is not like the Highlander films, that is for sure!

[BeautifulEvil]

It is also relative to what is meant by eternal life!

That's a good point, but normally eternal life means absolute immortality. I would say this is at least the norm in modern society.

If one can leave the physical realm and travel the dimensional realm then of course that realm will have a different time (or no time), and one can - in 2 sec - live for a thousand years!

This can also be manipulated through speed and time deviation. If you are going near the speed of light, then a second for you will seem like years to earth creatures. Interestingly enough, if you're near an object of great mass/gravity the same thing happens.

Mixing quantum theory, physics, and occult is a surefire way to short the brain..

[deviadah]

Mixing quantum theory, physics, and occult is a surefire way to short the brain...

That may be, but I really think it is the only thing that should be done. The merger of Science and Art (SciArt) is the next step in the mental evolution!

It is time for Artists (magicians) to start thinking like a Scientist, and the other way round. Only good can come of it, I'm sure!

See: Quantum Theory & Alchemy

[Gordon Dinn]

This physical process of making the Elixer of Life from Saturn and base lead is most interesting. The key of the whole working is actually realizing the Prima Materia!

Once this is realized, the whole work comes into perspective. The words of many old alchemists begin to make sense, and the connections begin to come together in the most fascinating way.

The site in the original post is very informative. It almost plainly states the secret! It's quite noticeable when you read it a few times along with other alchemical texts.

Okay, so that first site seems to indicate that the prima materia is u***e and/or sexual fluids. Even for a mystical significance, I think there might be better energy manipulation ways than ingesting such substances by raising and sending to the alchemical mixture sexual energy to charge it. But, the idea of sexual energy used to rejuvinate one's physical form fits inline with how dense the energy is in relation to reality, as would kundalini energy be a good choice.

[deviadah]

But, the idea of sexual energy used to rejuvinate one's physical form fits inline with how dense the energy is in relation to reality, as would kundalini energy be a good choice.

Is this a question or a statement?

Anyway...

Welcome Gordon Dinn!

Here's some topics that talk about stuff that might interest you (judging from your post):

• AMRITA - Comments on the Elixir of Life
• Fire Circle Alchemy
• Spiritual Sex in Alchemy and Tantra

[Gordon Dinn]

It was a statement. Projecting the energy from this part of the body into the mixture is far easier and more sanitary than getting it this way. And I found out a few days ago that u***e actually does turn white when dry. But, the rest of my last post still stands.

[deviadah]

It was a statement.

Got you... sometimes one can read sentences in different ways!

Good think I asked or I would have looked foolish giving you an answer to a non-question!

And I found out a few days ago that u***e actually does turn white when dry.

Didn't know this!

[Gordon Dinn]

It reminds me of this guy I read about (I forget his name) who long ago gave up sexual desire and lived in perfect health for something like 2,000 years. There's an India region based group that perform a ritual where they move energy around their body (I don't remember if they said exactly what, but I think it was implied to be sexual and/or kundalini; I'll have to look it up) for perfect health and vitality or something. It's lead by this guy with one of those names that's hard to pronounce and is many many characters long.

[SolusFlare]

i thought that the comment about a man giving up sex was a very interesting comment, i wouldn't say that it was the key to eternal life but maybe contribute in some way, by giving up all desires and not polluting or damaging your body in any way you would surely live longer, that is the same for us in the world today.
i believe that the physical and the mental are very much one and the same they have differences of course but each affect each other, maybe this man just found not having sex as part of a way to find a harmony within himself and to abide peace with all surroundings.

without conflict can there be destruction?

[BeautifulEvil]

And I found out a few days ago that u***e actually does turn white when dry.

This is partially true, and what you're probably witnessing is ammonium nitrate. Now listen up:

Urine decomposes into ammonium nitrate which forms at the bottom of the flask/beaker of urine. Actually I believe there are two fixed salts, and one volatile salt of urine. The fixed salt precipitant is called the white earth. The white powder is formed from a layer of iridescent oil/film that forms on top of the urine. There's only one problem: the iridescent oil/film does not form every time, and you will be highly lucky if you ever get it to properly form. This iridescent oil/film is special. I have no idea what this white film is at this time.

If you want to make the white powder for health usage, then proceed to wash/filter the powder until it is completely white and does not smell like urea anymore. You may dry this, and after it's dry you may consume small amounts each day. The transmutation power of this stone is for you to decide.

To make a red stone (which is the true stone of the philosophers) one must collect the oil/film and add it to water. Then collect the ammonium nitrate that forms at the bottom of the urine (or use lab grade ammonium nitrate) and mix it with the solution. This solution must be slowly heated until the heat is around 120F, and left to digest until it forms a deep red oil (i.e. do not boil the whole thing until it's powder). This red oil must be collected and put in a drying dish and left in a dark, dry place. Soon enough the red oil will dry completely, and you will be left with a red crystalline matrix. This is all theory though, I haven't heard of anybody actually creating a red stone this way.

[Salazius]

Hello,

Concerning the Amrita, it can be achieved by uttering the Kechari Mantra : Hrim Bham Sam Pam P-Ham Sam Ksham, and visualizing a crescent moon face upward with a dot on the top of it, it must be white and clear blue. you can concentrate no the soma/bindu chakra on the back top of the head.

You may feel a freezing liquid running in some part of your body, this is amrita. Where Amrita goes in nadis, all your karma is cleaned for ever.

You can also make this exercise distilling some fresh rainwater, the most slowly possible and being present during the distillation, you may find a clearing in your aura and a feeling of some repressed astral bubbles of emotions in parts of your body that you never noticed before.

Maybe, you will see in a vision the "Hamsa" on the Amrita lake, where there is a fountain of this Water.

This is a very lunar way of purifying all your system. You can also do the kechari mudra, with the tongue, but this is another practice. Amrita makes you younger, and in better physical form.

I worked some time with this mantra, with distillation of water, and it works like I described it, freezing sensation, purification, sensation of astral energies ... and physical expulsions by the skin of energies.

BeautifulEvil,

You say very interesting things on the subject of the golden water, and I thank you for this.

It seems that you made some experiences on this mater. I worked in a different way, more like Green Lion.
I'm distilling it, and also making it evaporate.

I made yesterday an observation of the dried matter under a microscope. And I have found 4 kind of crystallization, cubic, octahedral (disappeared this morning ...), one like ice frost and a last one, like fireworks.
There is another kind of formation in it. Like bubbles of the tincture, like cells organized around a transparent dot in the center of it, some crystals also do this. So, I took some of the white film and put it under microscope, and, maybe, it is the element that make particles of the color of the Golden Water, an crystals to coagulate in a cell form. Or maybe, it is a micro bubble of air that make that. But, in nature every form have to organize around a center, a core center to make a living structure, maybe, this is the white film because it presents some little "clear rounded particles" like I founded to be in the center of the color cells. Spiritus Mundi is maybe more in link with this film than anything else in this matter.

Regards,
Salazius.

[BeautifulEvil]

Hi Salazius, I edited my post before yours to reflect my current knowledge on the subject and to change a few inconsistencies.

You say very interesting things on the subject of the golden water, and I thank you for this.

Hey, thanks a ton! Some of what I've said is outdated and probably erroneous, but I'm trying to update some of it. Just send me a private message, or leave a post if you have any questions about this method. I'll be glad to help you with what I can.

I made yesterday an observation of the dried matter under a microscope. And I have found 4 kind of crystallization, cubic, octahedral (disappeared this morning ...), one like ice frost and a last one, like fireworks.

Good idea! I didn't think about observing the crystal structure of this substance under magnification. I need to buy a decent microscope sometime, as I'm sure it will aid in my alchemy work. I will have to take a look at the white powder under a microscope when I get the chance.

Spiritus Mundi is maybe more in link with this film than anything else in this matter.

I think so too.

[Salazius]

Hi,

Hi Salazius, I edited my post before yours to reflect my current knowledge on the subject and to change a few inconsistencies.

Thanks for editing !

With this mater, there is a lot of things happening when we work with it, and we have to be always updated !

For example, I tried another way with crystallization of the GW, and, there was only ... one form of crystals. In fact, it became so clear and filtered, that there was only a sort of "cell" (yes cell ! with a center, etc), dividing, growing, and evolving slowly under my lens (well, after few hours of rest) and forming curious figures ...

Salazius

[theFool]

For me the "elixir" is fresh royal bee jelly. It gives physical energy and endurance. Effects can be felt even with a single dose. It seems like a lot of "life force" is concentrated in this material. I think that this "life force" can be extracted and concentrated from wine or other organic matter also and have similar effects but I have no experience of this. I trust the bees doing the work; a lot of people use royal jelly throughout the eons with no side effects but with definite and well documented positive results.
Some more speculation on the "life force" concept would say that it is sth that "feeds" our etheric body, the matrix around which our physical body is built and so reparation and maintenance is more efficient. But all those is just speculation. Our science doesn't have tools to probe the ether; in fact we are ignorant of its existence, so those theories aren't going to be tested soon.
I think this kind of "elixir" will allow one day the human to live till his last day without illness and die from old age, as it is meant to be.

[jnjone4]

Hello, my name is John and this is my first post to this forum. I am presently outfitting a very small lab that I have built away from my house. I have very little practical experience, but am very eager to learn. For my first post I'd like to send along this link to a real Elixer of Life...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw.......Naturally it's illegal!

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